I agree he needs to be charged. And treated just like the J6'ers who engaged in comparable behavior, including being tossed in the dungeon, as applicable.
I really appreciate this article and wholeheartedly agree. But I doubt he will be charged. We have already seen egregious double standards in prosecutorial conduct: Daniel Penny vs. another person of color who wasn't charged (and whose name has faded from my memory), Derek Chauvin vs. Michael Byrd, and prosecution of Trump for 'classified' records vs. non prosecution of Biden for longer and less justifiable retention of classified records. It's good and useful to point out the double standard, and I resent the injustice, but I don't anticipate that the disparate treatment will be rectified. Now, if the January 6th defendants could realize big judgments for civil rights violations against the persons who did them harm (and not just to be paid by our tax dollars), or people lost their pensions, then the equation might change.
“Against the persons”. Don’t we wish a suitable punishment for the rank ideologues who advocated severe treatment and made the DoJ act harshly. What a waste of resources in their dragnet.
Thank you for writing this and taking the time to demonstrate how the DOJ tactics worked against j6ers to make us all seem like violent terrorists. You’re a good guy. I appreciate you.
This is an amazing and important article. It’s presented as a judicial fairness thought experiment. The two-tier bright line is going to be crossed here. Only Shipley could bring this point of view and level of legal analysis.
He should be charged with assaultive behavior, but he probably won't be. Because:
a) It won't be worth the effort.
b) To the average person, his actions were not "assaultive".
c) And, also, we average citizens don't really know how badly the J6 defendants were treated, so Im afraid that a comparison with them would be too much of a stretch.
I sincerely hope that he is prosecuted. I fear, however, they will show that there is indeed a different standard for those with power/means. We shall see.
Your clarification of the legal aspects of these incidents is important and informative. However, it's already set in concrete that there is a two tier just us situation in this country.
I have no faith at all that the George W. Trump administration is going to set anything right.
Just for fun. If he is charged with anything of substance, I'll drop fifty bucks into the kitty. If he actually gets anything more than a sternly worded letter, I'll make it a hundred.
He definitely needs to be charged. This type of behavior has no defense, and an example needs to be made before it becomes impossible to have a civilized press conference , or speaking event. I for one, am sick of seeing this type of behavior over and over with no consequences
Just for fun. If he is charged with anything of substance, I'll drop fifty bucks into the kitty. If he actually gets anything more than a sternly worded letter, I'll make it a hundred.
Until now, the Dept of Justice has been run as the Dept of “Just us”… where Democrats & operatives were overtly ignored, protests allowed to destroy billions in property, and assaults ignored. If he is not charged and prosecuted, there is no Justice, it simply reinforces the “Just us” nature of Democrat leftists doing whatever they choose with no repercussions.
I hope he is charged. However, I can't see an LA jury pool convicting him, if it ever gets that far. Would the biased jury pool factor into prosecutors' decision making to seek charges?
I agree he needs to be charged. And treated just like the J6'ers who engaged in comparable behavior, including being tossed in the dungeon, as applicable.
I really appreciate this article and wholeheartedly agree. But I doubt he will be charged. We have already seen egregious double standards in prosecutorial conduct: Daniel Penny vs. another person of color who wasn't charged (and whose name has faded from my memory), Derek Chauvin vs. Michael Byrd, and prosecution of Trump for 'classified' records vs. non prosecution of Biden for longer and less justifiable retention of classified records. It's good and useful to point out the double standard, and I resent the injustice, but I don't anticipate that the disparate treatment will be rectified. Now, if the January 6th defendants could realize big judgments for civil rights violations against the persons who did them harm (and not just to be paid by our tax dollars), or people lost their pensions, then the equation might change.
“Against the persons”. Don’t we wish a suitable punishment for the rank ideologues who advocated severe treatment and made the DoJ act harshly. What a waste of resources in their dragnet.
Thank you for writing this and taking the time to demonstrate how the DOJ tactics worked against j6ers to make us all seem like violent terrorists. You’re a good guy. I appreciate you.
This is an amazing and important article. It’s presented as a judicial fairness thought experiment. The two-tier bright line is going to be crossed here. Only Shipley could bring this point of view and level of legal analysis.
He should be charged with assaultive behavior, but he probably won't be. Because:
a) It won't be worth the effort.
b) To the average person, his actions were not "assaultive".
c) And, also, we average citizens don't really know how badly the J6 defendants were treated, so Im afraid that a comparison with them would be too much of a stretch.
I sincerely hope that he is prosecuted. I fear, however, they will show that there is indeed a different standard for those with power/means. We shall see.
Even being charged, however, would have little effect on whether he would be found guilty. That would be even less likely.
Your clarification of the legal aspects of these incidents is important and informative. However, it's already set in concrete that there is a two tier just us situation in this country.
I have no faith at all that the George W. Trump administration is going to set anything right.
Just for fun. If he is charged with anything of substance, I'll drop fifty bucks into the kitty. If he actually gets anything more than a sternly worded letter, I'll make it a hundred.
Thanks for the informative posts, Ship.
I thought that he would use the "I lost my way to the Gay Pride Parade" excuse.
Trump should give the Senator a preemptive Pardon to illustrate his unlawful behavior & the unfairness of the J6 trials.
He definitely needs to be charged. This type of behavior has no defense, and an example needs to be made before it becomes impossible to have a civilized press conference , or speaking event. I for one, am sick of seeing this type of behavior over and over with no consequences
Very interesting breakdown.
Just for fun. If he is charged with anything of substance, I'll drop fifty bucks into the kitty. If he actually gets anything more than a sternly worded letter, I'll make it a hundred.
Thanks for the informative posts, Ship.
Until now, the Dept of Justice has been run as the Dept of “Just us”… where Democrats & operatives were overtly ignored, protests allowed to destroy billions in property, and assaults ignored. If he is not charged and prosecuted, there is no Justice, it simply reinforces the “Just us” nature of Democrat leftists doing whatever they choose with no repercussions.
I hope he is charged. However, I can't see an LA jury pool convicting him, if it ever gets that far. Would the biased jury pool factor into prosecutors' decision making to seek charges?
J6 him. Period.
Why do these irresponsible acts always generate from Democrats ?
He has to be charged otherwise you cannot charge others for the same act.
This is not "normal" behavior and the Dems know it.
If Padilla had a black helmet on with a black face mask we all would have assumed he was an Antifa thug.